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[dreamflower]

Watching Helm's Deep for the umpteenth time, and it occured to me--and not for the first time--that PJs Elven warriors bear a more than passing resemblance to Vulcans, as they march in so precisely, with their faces so carefully blank.

Coincidence? I think not. What do you think?

Comments

[ansostuff.livejournal.com]

I don't know Vulcans but I wondered about their lack of emotion too. Perhaps it's because they've seen so many battles that one more doesn't make such a big impact as the battle would for mortals?

[garnet-took.livejournal.com]

I've wondered about that, too. I also noticed that several of Eomer's, and especially Theoden's,lines sounded an awful lot like some of the stuff the Klingons would say. I kept expecting one of them to say, "Today is a good day to die.":)

[claudia603.livejournal.com]

huh. Interesting! :D I never noticed that, but now that I think of it...

[surgicalsteel.livejournal.com]

Hadn't thought of it before - but now that you mention it...

[gamgeefest.livejournal.com]

Don't know about Vulcans, since I've only seen a few eps of ST, that connection never would have occured to me.

The Elves now: that's how they would march into battle.

[elandulin.livejournal.com]

What an interesting idea, and actually, it adds a dimension to the Vulcans, doesn't it? They weren't immortal like the Elves, of course, but apparently their life spans were long enough to acquire the same stoicism and world-weariness. As Mr. Spock would say: fascinating.

:)

[danachan.livejournal.com]

What Elanor said.

:)

[obeliamedusa.livejournal.com]

I had that same thought, first time I saw it. But then, having Vulcans on the brain is a common occurence for me. ;)

[rhapsody11.livejournal.com]

PJ's elves make me shudder, not from excitement but his interpretation of them that makes them so... plastic. I can't put my finger on it, but there are days that I hope that PJ and his crew never get to do the Silmarillion.

[ceshaughnessy.livejournal.com]

Too funny! I remember having the same thought the first time I watched it!
Cathleen

[poppymuddyfoot.livejournal.com]

I have to agree with you. I've thought that for a long time. But I also agree with rhapsody11, I don't care for how the elves were portrayed in the movies. Yes, Orlando Bloom was gorgeous and Cate Blanchett was beautiful, but I found them a little dull, to be honest. It's only now that I'm reading the Silmarillion (I know, I know, but better late than never), that I'm beginning to see the passion and the power of the elves. Honestly, I think the ones in the movies would have been better off if they had been played like Vulcans. Now there's a passionate race for you! I'd better shut up now before my Trek geekiness shows too clearly, and before I alienate any other Bloom fans...

[dreamflower]

I'm not so sure about an actual "lack" of emotion, as it seemed to me to be emotion perfectly disciplined--which of course is where the "Vulcan-ness" comes in. (Vulcans are from Star Trek--Mr. Spock was one)

[dreamflower]

*giggle* You have a point. But of course, I think most warrior cultures would have to have a certain amount in common. I think a Klingon, a Viking, a Samurai and a Rohirrim (if they could refrain from killing one another) would all find a good deal in common with one another.

[dreamflower]

Yeah. Just look at their perfect discipline...

[dreamflower]

Yep. And I don't think it's coincidence, either.

[dreamflower]

It's that perfectly disciplined control of emotion that makes me think of Vulcans...

And, yes, they *would* do it perfectly, wouldn't they?

[dreamflower]

"Stoicism" is the perfect word for it! For, as we know both Elves and Vulcans do *not* *lack* emotion--they simply control it.

At least by the Third Age they do--the Elves of the First Age seemed a lot less disciplined...

[dreamflower]

*grin*

[dreamflower]

Well, I usually have hobbits on the brain, but that was so *obvious*, I couldn't miss it.

[dreamflower]

PJ's Elves aren't JRRT's Elves--though they are immortal and powerful and beautiful, they don't seem to have much else in common.

[dreamflower]

See! It had to be deliberate!

[dreamflower]

*grin*

Cate Blanchett's Galadriel left me cold the first time, but she's rather grown on me, as did Liv's Arwen. And uh, I do like Orlando as Legolas, though I'm by no means a fangirl; however, the poor kid was given some very cheesy dialogue. But the other Elves do seem very much like "stage dressing" rather than characters. And Elrond is badly OOC throughout the movie, right up until he gets to board the ship--when PJ slips up and allows his kindness to show.

[rhapsody11.livejournal.com]

Well what is beautiful and what not is different by person. Except for Haldir perhaps, but the rest of the elves I did see ... I don't find them beautiful... That would explain it as well I guess. The casting for the men however...