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[dreamflower]

You know, as sad as the Grey Havens scene is, one part always makes me smile: the way Elrond opens his arms to Bilbo. It's clear they are such good friends...

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[febobe.livejournal.com]

*cries*

I missed what I could have caught of the ending b/c I forgot it was on tonight!!!!

DUMMY me. . . .

*wails*

PS - Congrats to your hubby, BTW -

-Febobe

[elwenlj.livejournal.com]

Isn't he a sweetie in that scene? Such a gentle smile.

Smitten . . . who me?

[dreamflower]

He is a sweetie--PJ finally allowing him to show his kindness, after keeping him OOC almost all through the movie. But it's obvious that Bilbo is so very dear to him...

[julchen11.livejournal.com]

It's indeed a sad but wonderful scene.
I think I'll watch the movie tonight again :-)

[dreamflower]

Sounds like a plan!

[surgicalsteel.livejournal.com]

That really is a lovely scene - one of the few places where I really liked movie!Elrond.

[dreamflower]

PJ made him OOC for so much of the movie, never allowing him to show his fatherly side to Aragorn at all, making him irrationally suspicious of Men, and *then* left him, I suppose, to take down the tents at Dunharrow...

But he's so sweet with Bilbo there!

[surgicalsteel.livejournal.com]

I agree 100%. It makes no sense that someone who's half-Elven and whose brother founded the line of kings that Aragorn came from would be so suspicious of men, and makes even less sense that the man who essentially was the only father Aragorn ever knew would treat Aragorn as coldly as he did.

*snerk* And we never did find out what happened after he delivered the sword, did we?

[dreamflower]

No. I don't write Elves or movie-verse, or I might try to explain that particular plot-hole with a fic. I wish *somebody* would make some sense of it!

[shirebound]

Awwwww. :)

[dreamflower]

Uh-huh. *smiles*

[periantari.livejournal.com]

Grey Havens is one of the best scenes in all the movies~! (reason for my perennial header pic ;) Just wished that they included the whole of Frodo's quote--- "It must be so Sam, when things are in danger: some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them." Such a simple yet profoundly necessary quote to include yet they didn't. :(

[dreamflower]

So many good lines were either lost or displaced; some of them for no apparent reason...

But it's such a terribly sad scene. Merry just about breaks my heart there.

[mews1945.livejournal.com]

I love that too.

[dreamflower]

Yes, Elrond finally gets to show why he was called "kind as summer".

[gentlehobbit.livejournal.com]

That is a lovely moment, isn't it. Elrond has such affection for Bilbo (and vice-versa).

[dreamflower]

He does. It's so clear what dear friends they've become over the years.

[claudia603.livejournal.com]

I'm usually crying too much at that part to notice the little joyful parts (because I know what's about to happen) :-))

[dreamflower]

It is so sad. And it's even sadder in the movie because of that "Last ship" thing, so there's no indication Sam's going to get to follow.

But I do like that moment--it's the only time in the whole darn movie that we get to see Elrond in character.

[graymouse.livejournal.com]

They changed so many things around. If you hadn't read the books you'd never know that Sam got to follow Frodo or what eventually did happen to the rest of the Fellowship.

I suppose Elrond had to behave the way he did in the movies in order to support the way they wanted to tell the story. Dramatic tension and that sort of thing.

[dreamflower]

PJ simplified things so much for the parts of the audience who never read the books. He left out the part about Elrond being Aragorn's foster father, because explaining all that would be too complicated, I suppose. And then, without that background, people would wonder why Elrond would be so nice to this mortal who wanted to marry his daughter--so he makes Elrond angry and bitter instead, only allowing him to soften at the very end. He left out the part about Sam sailing later, because it was less complicated to just call it the "Last Ship", and because it fed into the false interpretation of sailing West as "death".

I'm told there were some scenes filmed of Legolas and Gimli traveling together in Fangorn, but that they were cut for time considerations...

*sigh* The only way to have satisfied us book lovers would have been to make the whole thing twice as long. And even there, I think some things would have still been lost.

[graymouse.livejournal.com]

Things would have had to be lost. I still don't know how they could have filmed the scenes Tom Bombadil without being ridiculous but I would have loved to have seen them in the Old Forest and Barrow-Downs and think of how much more of Merry we'd have gotten to see! All of Merry's best bits got left out. His planning to follow Frodo, leading them into the Old Forest, meeting the Black Rider in Bree, solving the mystery of the Moria door, figuring out where he and Pip had ended up after escaping the Urk-Hai and it's Merry that Theoden speaks to before his death.

Granted each movie would have been six hours long but I think most of the book fans wouldn't mind sitting around that long.